tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post2209752678445824687..comments2023-10-31T11:27:58.514-05:00Comments on THE SATURDAY AFTERNOON POST: FAR-RIGHT INSANITY: THEN AND NOWJack Jodellhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02165430903903838990noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-67797931671228784532009-11-26T10:05:24.901-06:002009-11-26T10:05:24.901-06:00Max's Dad,
I DO remember that worthless, aggra...Max's Dad,<br />I DO remember that worthless, aggravating Morton Downey, Jr., and little did I realize then that he would bequeath us with the overabundance of trash-talkers we have today.<br /><br />I think it's not only uncertainty that builds followers of these extremists. I think most of their followers are poorly informed and simply are responding to the loudest and most repetitive voices they hear...Jack Jodellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02165430903903838990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-67532301673600174562009-11-25T18:44:56.751-06:002009-11-25T18:44:56.751-06:00Hey Jack, remember that screaming nut Morton Downe...Hey Jack, remember that screaming nut Morton Downey Jr back in the 80's with his mouth breathing mook audience? That was tame compared to these guys of today. The problem is so many people are so unsure of what they believe, they listen to failed Top 40 deejays and former construction workers and tabloid show refugees to get their opinions. They used to sound stupid, ala Archie Bunker, now they just sound stupid, ala Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity and O'Reilly.Max's Dadnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-78352676620927614482009-11-25T16:27:47.773-06:002009-11-25T16:27:47.773-06:00Those are very insightful points on the religious ...Those are very insightful points on the religious right and far right, Infidel753, and I thank you for them. As for the "anti-Christian" reference in that JFK hate pamphlet, I would think they were blaming him for the 1962 Supreme Court decision banning prayer in public schools, which, like most far-right claims, was also utterly insane.Jack Jodellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02165430903903838990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-55831230110888287672009-11-25T04:49:34.452-06:002009-11-25T04:49:34.452-06:00Interesting how the religious-extremist thread has...Interesting how the religious-extremist thread has always been there. I didn't know they were using the "Anti-Christian" label with Kennedy.<br /><br />I do think that that element is much more dominant in the far right today, which if anything makes them more dangerous. Religious fanaticism can legitimize extreme action which most people with more reality-based motivations would shrink from. The Psalm 109:8 meme has been especially worrying in that regard.<br /><br />Extremism can arise from fear of loss of power. The worst far-right violence in American history erupted when groups like the KKK arose in reaction to the loss of the earlier total racial supremacy which they believed was God's will. Today the fundamentalist Christian Right is seeing its former high hopes for dominating and transforming American society slipping away. In people whose thinking already runs to apocalyptic imagery, this creates a dangerous frame of mind.Infidel753http://infidel753.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-65783572127571435232009-11-24T15:46:23.783-06:002009-11-24T15:46:23.783-06:00Manifesto Joe,
It astounds me how Oklahoma has gon...Manifesto Joe,<br />It astounds me how Oklahoma has gone from a very worker-oriented and leftist state but is now so far right they elect goofs like Coburn to the Senate! (I sure hope my Minnesota never does an about-face like that! How these bible-belt wingnuts can loudly proclaim themselves as Christians, and then character assassinate all who disagree with them, and elect politicians who favor the rich and trash the poor, is waaaayyyyy beyond me! Absolutely astonishing.<br />---------------<br />TomCat,<br />Thanks, my good man. It's a shame, but the cretins you describe are typical heartless far-right types who are seriously maladjusted and reeally are sociopaths.Jack Jodellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02165430903903838990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-70784190698541071372009-11-24T13:44:02.696-06:002009-11-24T13:44:02.696-06:00Well done, Jack! SJ's point is also well mad...Well done, Jack! SJ's point is also well made. In my lead article today, I didcussed how these cretins harassed and heckeled a woman whose pregnant daughter had just died for the lack of medical coverage. As I have said before, they are trolling for an assassin.TomCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11397335545286040472noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-63829911805900969552009-11-24T13:31:05.365-06:002009-11-24T13:31:05.365-06:00Hi, Jack:
Your mentions of FDR, Father Coughlin&#...Hi, Jack:<br /><br />Your mentions of FDR, Father Coughlin's warnings, and then Joe McCarthy bring something to mind.<br /><br />Oklahoma actually had a surprisingly large and active Communist Party back in the '30s, amid the Depression and the Dust Bowl. Novelist Jim Thompson, then chief of the WPA Writers Project for Oklahoma, was a key member who later dropped out of the party.<br /><br />Flash forward 50 years. I lived in Oklahoma for 15 months during 1985-86, reporting for a newspaper there. Wow -- I though Texas was redneck and right-wing. It's damned near Berkeley compared to Oklahoma. The biggest minority group in the area where I lived was Comanche Indians, and they were treated even worse than what few black people there were.<br /><br />Oklahoma seems like an example of how the New Deal reformers eventually became victims of their own successes. After World War II, when Oklahomans became increasingly middle-class and with the typical smugness therein, they took all that stuff like Social Security and union rights for granted, turned right-wing and forgot how such things came about.Manifesto Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06521151220297061304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-32680192017309882722009-11-24T07:19:43.402-06:002009-11-24T07:19:43.402-06:00Truth101,
I hear you loud and clear. The internet ...Truth101,<br />I hear you loud and clear. The internet and talk radio are mediums the far right exploits constantly to spread fear and their outright lies. You wouldn't believe some of the wacko shit about Obama that I get emailed from these far right believers. Speaking of believers, the religious right apparently never heard of the eighth commandment, because they're constantly "bearing false witness" against the neighbors they don't approve of.Jack Jodellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02165430903903838990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-9845292481223985402009-11-23T22:08:38.010-06:002009-11-23T22:08:38.010-06:00I think you're on to something about Father Co...I think you're on to something about Father Coughlin Jack. Years ago I had a friend that got "saved." He went to this wacky church and he was soon repeating crap he heard about the Kennedys being communists and aborting babies. Other weird nonsense also. The religious zealots that had a hand in starting this false rumor hate campaign have been able to spread their crap farther and faster in the internet age. They don't need to brain wash people into thinking they've been touched by God. They have a steady stream of bigots, homophobes and idiots on the web. The last President based his foreign policy on Armageddon.<br /><br /> May God save us from idiots that think they are chosen.Joe "Truth 101" Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08875151516978133598noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-88027427277523647812009-11-23T21:10:41.207-06:002009-11-23T21:10:41.207-06:00Oso,
You nailed it. These cavemen are always aroun...Oso,<br />You nailed it. These cavemen are always around; only their spokespersons and issues change from time to time.<br />---------------<br />BigMacInPittsburgh,<br />Hard times always seem to breed more uncertainty and fear. Fear breeds extremism, and often causes the unsure to listen to the loudest voice, or to those who seem to provide the easiest answer. But the loudest voice and the easiest answer do not always provide us with the best result...<br />---------------<br />mud_rake,<br />Yeah, the malcontents are miserable, and misery loves company. And you're right: we always DO have some vermin with us. Today's batch just seems more prevalent because they're shouting all the time at volume 11 or 12, and they have more venues to present their lies and nonsense through than ever before.<br />---------------<br />SJ, <br />Gotcha, my good man, and that is a very valid point. Their lies have not only gained more mediums and frequency, but they are being cleverly targeted to gain broad appeal. Goebbels would be very, very proud of the conservative media for the job it is doing in distributing false propaganda!Jack Jodellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02165430903903838990noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-50758794784671782422009-11-23T20:56:46.725-06:002009-11-23T20:56:46.725-06:00"It means"
-SJ"It means"<br />-SJSJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17181694732531476160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-63283731379390508662009-11-23T20:43:44.694-06:002009-11-23T20:43:44.694-06:00@Jack,
the big difference between then and know th...@Jack,<br />the big difference between then and know that you mentioned is the Internet... but let's not forget the 24 hour news and media cycle has also changed the game.<br /><br />I means that when a lie is put forth, it must be combatted 24 hours a day...<br />Saints preserve us.<br />-SJSJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17181694732531476160noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-67992757496270269182009-11-23T19:30:43.506-06:002009-11-23T19:30:43.506-06:00There will always be a knot of malcontents who do ...There will always be a knot of malcontents who do not want to see this nation move forward in unity. They think that 'the past' is precious and ought not be changed.<br /><br />Odd people, for sure, but like roaches and head lice, they are always with us.mud_rakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04786611698569598023noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-20352905468060580592009-11-23T19:26:07.548-06:002009-11-23T19:26:07.548-06:00Funny how the rightwing lies and distortions seem ...Funny how the rightwing lies and distortions seem to gain traction when the economy is in the pits.None seem to get the attention when the folks who fall for their lies are busy at work!BigmacInPittsburghhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13727923795293367521noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6234638383123311700.post-64476006735501334982009-11-23T19:08:45.920-06:002009-11-23T19:08:45.920-06:00hi Jack,
very good points you bring up here-the cu...hi Jack,<br />very good points you bring up here-the current crop of right wing dirt bags are awful but I guess their ilk has always been with us,just the means of dissemination of their lies has changed with the internet,cable TV,etc.<br />That Kennedy thing was amazing. Very Limbaugh Beck Malkin. Guess I didn't realize how deep that rot has always been from the right.Osohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09513535195785731541noreply@blogger.com